Rodney & The Vampire

Rodney & The Vampire

Tam & Cam

Tam & Cam

Feedback

below is different feedback we got

Feedback 1

- Good genre - used comedy
- Look at film 'Demon headmaster'
- add bits over the summer, but not random things - remember logical causalty
- Need to create a good back story for Rodney
- look at moc-horror effects
- look at headline of teacher trying to kill student
- use different influences (magazines, songs, tv, newspaper etc)
- use self reference
- good ending - not a predictable plot twist
- themes are not typical
- remember thematic unity
- class full of cast - may find problems with this


feedback for editing

- a bit too prolonged
- try and make the boys walking towards him shorter
- add a few more cutaways
- have the voice over the shot
- scene 3 starts too soon
- pan in scene 3 is too long
- lose shot 43
- only show his shoe going into basket
- cut the pan in scene 3 down to when Rodney screams - then cut
- cut down on effects

Feedback on film

- titles are good
- had a bad actor
- Rodney made the film look bad
- the film was good
- portrayed comedy
- film didn't finish properly, could have finished better
- strong title sequence
- continuity problems
- if Rodney was shouting outside he would have been heard by the teachers


the first music we used in our film was not liked according to our feedback so we got different music

feedback on music

- music is too dramatic
- you should use more dramatic music
- music just stops dramatically
- music doesn't go with the action on screen

Collage

we was asked to construct a collage of our film idea, with various pictures, words, colours etc. we were told to do this in a way where we would not have to describe our film but by looking at the collage you will see what our film is about, themes, ideas and other features of our film.

we used a lot of pictures to make the viewer use there imagination a lot to kind of see what we are trying to create.


Collage 2

we constructed a second collage just to add to the first 1.

Main Task Research

Cinematography

The act of making a film

What is cinematography?

Is the making of lighting and camera choices when recording photographic images for the cinema it is closely related to the art of still photography. Many additional issues arise when both the camera and elements of the scene may be in motion, though this also greatly increases the possibilities at the same time.

Chris Doyle

From watching the Chris Doyle master class I learned various things about cinematography, I realised how lighting and camera work can change the atmosphere so much: you can create ‘space by light’ he also says that you should always be trying to ‘explain a story in your specific space’. Locations can form stories; you can use something in a location to add or to tell your story for example he described to us how he used a location in the film ‘mood of love’ he used a ageing wall which was dull and basically in an alley-like area, this tells the story to some people. The camera plays a big part of the production. ‘Why this story happens is because it happens here’ – that’s how you should create your film, it shouldn’t be a situation where you can create the same film somewhere else, your location should be the home of the film.

Krzysztof Kieslowski like Doyle indicates the significance of the camera in production also.

These are some films which helped us gain story ideas and character development.

Film research

The main character from home alone is very similar to our main character 'Rodney'. Like him, he feels he needs to defeat the evil 'grown ups' in a lovable comical way. He shares characteristics such as feeling left out and alone and is overlooked and often ignored. By the end of the story he develops into a more mature, independent character. We can use the idea of home alones character setting traps for the adults as this creates comedy which is one of our stories main themes. In the clip I have added the little boy saying ' I will defeat them' which is a very similar line used in our story where Rodney vows to defeat the teachers.

I also looked at 'Van helsing' as I believe the film shares the same theme of Gothicism as my story.

Similarly it involves vampires, which is useful: as we are able to get advice and tips on vampires and how they are portrayed in the film industry. Another film which shares one of our themes is 'Queen of the damned'. Sharing the same theme of fantasy we are able to observe techniques including camera and music which may help to emphasise 'fantasy'. The film also revolves around vampires similar to 'Rodney who cried vampire'.

I also decided to use a popular children’s TV series to gain tips from this as I think it contains similar elements to our own story. 'Mona the vampire' is about a young girl and her friends who believe there are monsters, vampires, ghosts causing havoc in their town and make it their mission to defeat them. This hugely relates to our story as this is just what Rodney, our main character does. He believes his teacher is a vampire and must defeat him. We can use the storyline ideas to help us with our story and script. I also chose 'kenan and Kel' as it shares the theme of comedy which links in with our story.

THE GOONIES (1985)



SON OF Rambow



MONA THE VAMPIRE



KENAN AND KEL



QUEEN OF THE DAMNED



VAN HELSING



HOME ALONE

Mood Board

This was a mood board i constructed at the time when we was thinking of different ideas for our story.

As we began thinking of ideas about potential films we constructed individual mood boards on specific colours, at the time I thought to myself why cant we do it as a group but after we had finished I realised how all the groups ideas could not fit onto 1 mood board and it would be better to feedback to the other group members and see the differences and similarities you shared with your partners.

It was also good to see how we all branched away from the stereotypical representations…our group was given the colour black, now we all know the stereotypical connotations of black – death, hatred, evil, night time, space, black hole, aliens etc. but we also came up with some different ideas and examples of black expressions, we came up with poems about the colour black, music lyrics. Some other connotations were rock and roll, black heart, black rose, black power, black panther etc.

I believe this was a good task to undergo as it made us use our imaginations while widening our idea making/thought tracks. It allowed us to think of ideas and not just disregard them if they didn’t meet the stereotypical representations.

We could also link things in which may normally have been thought of doing.

Character Profiles

Character Profiles

Mr Vamping

Name: Gabriel Vamping

Age: 26

Birthday: 31st October 1870
Lives: One Bedroom apartment in Lime house.

Lives with: No one

Likes: Teaching
Blood
‘Queen of the Damn’-The book
Reading
His imitation of gothic painting-‘The Nightmare’
‘Twilight’-the film
Robert Gascoyne-Prime Minister from 1886-1892 and 1895-1902

Looks: Average looks
Fair skinned
Friendly face
Between average and tall height

Jobs: Mines in 1886
Farming Tractor Driver in 1890
Brought own land and had workers in 1894
Business man for food in 1904
Started teaching young children from 1912

Dislikes: Sunlight
Garlic
Crucifix

Childhood: Tough Childhood. Father died of disease and Mother died at birth 8years after Vamping was born, baby brother died too. Now an only child he began to beg then went into the Mines. Late went to work in Farming Transport and managed to work his way up. At 26 years old he was awoken in the night by strange noises. He searched his house finding bloody under the kitchen door. When he opened it he found a strange being feeding on rats. The being was a Vampire and attacked Vamping. Since then he has been living alone moving from place to place hiding his true identity.

Dream: To find a female vampire without having to bite them.
Weakness: Accepting his past. Regrets what happened to him because of how it’s affecting his living circumstances.

Strengths: Energetic
Ability to stop and live a new life
Hiding behind a mask

Education: In the 20th Century-Barking College-GSCE
Havering College-A levels
UEL-Teaching Degree

Beliefs: Not hurting others for personal gain
Hard work

Values: Youth
Aging
Education
Family which he never had

Speech: Changes through time

Daily Activity: Wakes up at 6am, He drives to work, Teaches his lesson and comes home to sleep. At midnight he visits slaughters houses. He kills the animal and stores its blood.

Rodney

Name: Rodney Rickets

Age: 13

Birthday: 13th August 1996

Lives: 4 minutes away from school on an estate

Lives (with): Mother and Father. Both parents are over protective and smother him with love making him into a wimp. Mother is a housewife and Father is a nurse. Rodney is an only child.

Likes: Nintendo DS- Cooking Mama
Table Tennis
Ready Steady Cook
Pop Idol
Mum’s homemade Cottage Pie
Cucumbers
Baking Short Bread
visiting his Grandmother

Dislikes: Sweets
Football-he gets hit by the ball
Girls-Cooties

Childhood: Perfect childhood. Has gone to Buntlines every year.

Dream: Open his own Bakery called, ‘Rodney’s home made touch’.

Weakness: Very Gullible, values Friendship to much.

Strengths: Creative
Enthusiastic
Hard working

Education: Nursery-Tiny Tots
Primary-St Josephs
Secondary-Barking Abbey

Beliefs: Catholic
in telling the truth

Values: Family and quality time with them.
Friendship

Speech: Well spoken

Daily Activity: Wakes up and 7am and makes breakfast which consists of a soft boiled egg and soldiers, Studies hard at school and has lunch with grandmother, Comes home and bakes a desert, Have dinner in the evening and Father tells Rodney his latest nursing stories. finally Goes to bed at 9pm.

Pitch

1st Draft

Rodney arrives late to Mr Vampings history lesson as he does every morning. Every time he arrives a clumsy event happens. As the lesson finishes Mr Vamping announces to the class there will be a special lesson the following day.
After lesson, Rodney returns to the classroom after realizing he has forgotten his rucksack but is distracted by his teacher crouched behind the desk. As he asks if Mr Vamping is okay his teacher spins round revealing fangs and blood dripping down his chin. A terrified Rodney screams and runs out.
Rodney runs to his ‘friends’ to inform them of what just happened but they laugh at him and Danny (leader) orders the ‘Posey’ to throw poor Rodney in the sandpit. A very upset and humiliated Rodney sulks around school; however he stumbles across Mr Vamping and Mr Drackson and decides to eavesdrop on their conversation.

Mr Vamping- ‘I think Rodney is onto us’
Mr Drackson- ‘don’t worry, they will all find out soon!’

(Evil laughs)

Feeling a sudden urge of independence and courage, Rodney vows to prevent the ‘vampires’ from revealing themselves to his fellow classmates.
The next day Rodney arrives late to lesson yet again with a garlic necklace around his neck and a carrot stake in his hand. Feeling heroic he marches to class but falls over the bin. As he walks into class a dark, black figure wearing a cape walks into the middle of the classroom. As he pulls his cape back and roars the class gasp drowned out by Rodneys girlish screams. In the middle of the class stands Mr Vamping in a vampire costume and he announces to the class they will be studying vampires today.
At the end of the lesson an embarrassed Rodney admits to Mr Vamping how his suspicions were wrong and leaves. Alone in the classroom, Mr vamping turns and takes out his fangs revealing a real pair and gives an evil laugh.

Feedback for first draft of Pitch-

Positive feedback-

- Elements of comedy are appealing
- Rodney comes across as a very lovable character
- Simple story of a little boys world where we see things from a child’s point of view (escapism, not reality)
- Rodney is similar to boy characters from ‘Son of rambow’ and ‘The Goonies’. We are able to pick up tips on how to portray him and take pieces from different characters to help develop him.
- Everything links together making story easy to follow

Questions

How will we show Rodneys thoughts throughout the film?
Rodneys thoughts are shown through his actions and behavior. We will use camera work and music especially in order to do this. The main element we are trying to show is comedy for example when Rodney thinks he is being heroic and saving the day we will use typical ‘save the day music’ in a mocking way. This shows the audience that Rodney thinks he is saving everybody but really, there is nothing to be scared of. This creates humor in a light-hearted way.

If he screams like a girl where does he find confidence to defeat vampires later in the film and why does he not just get the police?

We show character development of Rodney showing him as reliant on his ‘friends’ at the beginning, however, after being bullied and humiliated by them he gains the strength to go it alone and save the day. Although he is shown as more independent his dopey, clumsy character still remains throughout the story. Rodney wants a chance to he the hero for a change which is why he doesn’t go to the police or his parents. Our story is an innocent light hearted comedy which we feel does not need the presence of police as it is the world of film and not reality. It is just for enjoyment.


Problems we may encounter

-Costume changes (fangs).Keep costume minimal so it is easy to change in and out of. Not a lot of costume is required.
- Number of actors and use of teachers. We do not have to have a full class which lessens the number and instead of using teachers we would prefer to use students from sixth form.
- May be too long in some parts. Some unnecessary parks can be cut.
- Ending – ‘learning about vampires’. We can change to something more interesting for example in a theme of Halloween/trick or treat/Transylvania.

Group Second Draft Pitch

Pitch Powerpoint For Media

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this was a slide-show i created by myself with the group second draft.

Pitch 2nd Draft

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Pitch – Second Draft

Rodney arrives late to Mr Vampings history lesson as he does every morning. Every time he arrives a clumsy event happens. As Rodney enters Mr Vamping is writing the date on the board ‘Wednesday the 30th October’. As the lesson finishes Mr Vamping announces to the class there will be a special lesson the following day. After lesson, Rodney returns to the classroom after realizing he has forgotten his rucksack but is distracted by his teacher crouched behind the desk. As he asks if Mr Vamping is okay his teacher spins round revealing fangs and blood dripping down his chin. A terrified Rodney screams and runs out.Rodney runs to his ‘friends’ to inform them of what just happened but they laugh at him turn to walk away. They crowd together in a circle and mumble. Turning back round, Danny shouts to Rodney

Danny- ‘Rodney! Trick or treat
Rodney- huh? (Looks confused)
Danny- TRICK!

Danny and his friends then throw poor Rodney in the sandpit. A very upset and humiliated Rodney sulks around school; however he stumbles across Mr Vamping and Mr Drackson and decides to eavesdrop on their conversation.

Mr Vamping- ‘I think Rodney is onto us’

Mr Drackson- ‘don’t worry, they will all find out soon!’(Evil laughs)

Feeling a sudden urge of independence and courage, Rodney vows to prevent the ‘vampires’ from revealing themselves to his fellow classmates.The next day Rodney arrives late to lesson yet again with a garlic necklace around his neck and a carrot stake in his hand. Feeling heroic he marches to class but falls over a toy pumpkin laying beside the door. As he walks into class a dark, black figure wearing a cape walks into the middle of the classroom. As he pulls his cape back and roars the class gasp drowned out by Rodneys girlish screams. In the middle of the class stands Mr Vamping in a vampire costume.

Mr Vamping- ‘Happy Halloween guys!’

He then announces to the class they will be having a Halloween themed lesson.At the end of the lesson an embarrassed Rodney admits to Mr Vamping how his suspicions were wrong and leaves. Alone in the classroom, Mr vamping turns and takes out his fangs revealing a real pair and gives an evil laugh.

Section A G325 – Reflections on Production

Ancillary Text 1 – Film Poster

For this ancillary task we was asked to create a film poster for our film. below is our film poster campaign (with feedback), poster developmental stages, film poster research and some film poster analysis.

Poster 3 final draft

Poster 2 final draft after feedback

Poster 1 final draft after feedback

As we created a poster campaign, we had 3 different posters for our film. In our feedback we were told that Mr Vamping's head looked like it was 'Floating' Therefore the rest of his torso was added and enhanced the black on his cardigan a

nd embedded the whole layer. This makes him stand out from the background and look evil. A little pumpkin was added after also between the titles to add a representation of Halloween. The poster received some good feedback also; the audience commented on how it looks like a professional poster and contained all the codes and conventions of a children's mock horror film poster.

Poster 1 - developmental stages

The feedback we received for this poster was that the boys looked very effective with the posterized effect however the focus was being taken off of them because there was too much going on in the poster. We then took out the purple boarder to create more space and minimized the drop shadow behind the tag-line and names. The font for the tag-line was popular with the audience so we changed the Actors names to the same font. We also added Mr Vamping’s picture at the top of the poster and added an embed effect to give him a darker sinister look.

below is some research i gathered for the making of our film posters

Suggestions for film poster

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below is a slide-show of textual analysis of 'Man on fire' film posters before we researched film posters

Film Poster Analysis

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Ancillary Text 2 – Filming Review

One part of our production is to create a film review of our film. Below is some of the research compiled & the film review.

This is a second film review we made.




























Ancillary Task 2

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Below is a film review of our production


Film Review 1st Draft



































After showing this review to my class, they suggested to me that i should go with a layout where their is more than one film being reviewed.

i then looked at another one of my potential websites which was Total film...

Total film takes the approach of having 1 main film that takes up most of the page, with various different films on the side with brief information. I feel this is a good layout for a film review magazine as it allows a variety of films to be seen at 1 time and by it focusing on 1 mainly it gives you a reason to stay on the page and find out about the film.

Evaluation 4

Final Draft

How did you use new media technologies in the construction and research, planning and evaluation stages?

This year we have used the methods of blogs to present our works, we have not used blogs before to present work to the examiners so blogs in itself is a media technology, the blog we used was https://www.blogger.com/start, all the work we have done was posted on our blogs, for PowerPoint presentations I used http://www.slideshare.net/ to upload my presentations and then transfer the embedded code into my blog . This was not easier but allowed the work to be presented in a better way. Using blogs allows us to add pictures of our film or change the background so that your blog can look like a blog for your film.

You tube was important for us as we watched several clips about various different points of production, we watched clips on cinematography which allowed us to get a wider understanding of cinematography it also showed us the significance of cinematography in filming, we also watched clips on lighting, good editing and other clips also we watched clips of people like John Loach, Kieslowski, Chris Doyle and many others.

This year we used a different editing software which was called Premier (last year we used avid), there were a lot of differences between the two like the amount of things you could do in the programme, I feel premiere was a better software to use as you could do more with it. Looking back over the two programmes premier had a wide range of effects compared to few by avid, audio levels was very important in our film and with premier we could toggle the levels easier and in a better way, as we had various music over dialogue and music which is mixed in and other sound effects to input, premier allowed us to do this freely. We could also stretch out audio which played a big part in our film and we were able to so easily in premier.

The use of internet played a big part in our production in areas like music, we could go on various websites who all have copyright free music, it is very simple to do this also, any search engine could be used by just typing in copyright free music a load of websites would come up and you can freely choose from any of the websites.

As most of us use social networking sites and things like Photoshop it creates a sense of familiarity, we will become better with technology as we are around it more making us more creative as we use it more frequently. Although we used different editing software I still think it helped us this time round, the programmes were not to different, in some senses it would seem like an upgrade, all the same features with more things available.

The use of internet also allows loads of money to be saved, also as you can promote things freely now before you would have to pay for various advertising methods. With today’s technologies you can produce market and distribute your work for as good as nothing, you can reach millions of people with the click of a mouse. Linking with this accessibility is much better now, we could check the blog whenever we wanted and being in class was not an excuse to not do the work, we could check for any new work as most of the work was posted on the blog and it was our job to go and check. We could now post work anytime of the day making it easier for all of us.

My group had a few meetings on msn group chat when we couldn’t meet in person this was good for us as we didn’t always have to come and meet each other as we could sit down at a PC and share our ideas and decide on things we wanted and needed done.

More alternatives are now available also as we have more computers, cameras tapes etc. if one computer was not working we could easily move to another computer or use a different camera or tape, it makes it easier for us and saves us a lot of time. If a computer is broken we don’t have to wait until it’s fixed we can just use another one.

It was good for us as all things are digital now, as we have non-linear editing it make it much easier to edit film, digitising becomes easier and quicker to do, we can add certain effects to film which is good also.

1st Draft

How did you use new media technologies in the construction and research, planning and evaluation stages?

This year we have used the methods of blogs to present our works, we have not used blogs before to present work to the examiners so blogs in itself is a media technology, the blog we used was https://www.blogger.com/start, all the work we have done was posted on our blogs, for PowerPoint presentations I used http://www.slideshare.net/ to upload my presentations and then transfer the embedded code into my blog . This was not easier but allowed the work to be presented in a better way. Using blogs allows us to add pictures of our film or change the background so that your blog can look like a blog for your film.

You tube was important for us as we watched several clips about various different points of production, we watched clips on cinematography which allowed us to get a wider understanding of cinematography it also showed us the significance of cinematography in filming, we also watched clips on lighting, good editing and other clips also we watched clips of people like John Loach, Kieslowski, Chris Doyle and many others.

This year we used a different editing software which was called Premier (last year we used avid), there were a lot of differences between the two like the amount of things you could do in the programme, I feel premiere was a better software to use as you could do more with it. Looking back over the two programmes premier had a wide range of effects compared to few by avid, audio levels was very important in our film and with premier we could toggle the levels easier and in a better way, as we had various music over dialogue and music which is mixed in and other sound effects to input, premier allowed us to do this freely. We could also stretch out audio which played a big part in our film and we were able to so easily in premier.

Evaluation 3

Final Draft

What have you learned from your audience feedback?

Receiving audience feedback is one of the most important factors in all 3 parts of production. As we know when making something sometimes you can get carried away and need outer feedback to allow you to know what is good about what your doing and what is bad about what you’re doing, we must remember that we are making films for an audience and we ourselves are not the target audience.

Throughout our pitches, treatments and first ideas of our film we was constantly getting new feedback which allowed us to go back and change certain things. One thing was the sandpit, we planned for Rodney to be thrown in the sandpit instead of a bush but we was advised not to, we decided to still go ahead with it, we was then told by Mr Edwards that it goes against health and safety as there is a fox hole there and a lot of animal waste in the sandpit.

We were told that Rodney comes across as a loveable character in our pitch and that our simple story can be very effective. One feedback we got was that everything links together; we didn’t really get major feedback which made us change anything major but little things that could make our film better. A good piece of feedback was if Rodney is always screaming like a girl how does he gain confidence to become a saviour – this was a good question to be asked because it affects logical causality because he couldn’t just change character – due to this we added parts which made Rodney stand out more for himself.

At our first presentation our film ideas had no major sense of Logical causality, thematic unity, plot twists, motivation for characters and any real development. 1 major thing we was told was that we should stop out f the box the gain ideas that were not common and find ideas from various sources for example looking at simple stories which can be expanded, newspapers, websites which have short story ideas which can be modernised in some cases or altered to produce a good production.

We was told that our film had a good idea and that we only needed to change a few things and delve deeper into the development of certain characters, that’s what made us make very in-depth character profiles adding things which we may have not put if we had not received feedback (things like religion, lifetime background, information about parents etc) we went to another level with our profiles to make the characters as real as possible. This was a very important part of feedback as by doing very detailed character profiles we know our characters better and have more information to give to our cast so that they can feel more like the character there playing.

At first we had loads of dialogue and we were told to let the actions do more talking and only use dialogue when necessary. We then cut down a large amount of dialogue and tried to enforce actions instead of dialogue. This allows us to tell the story through Mis en scene and composition. Too much dialogue can ruin a film and usually most dialogue used can be taken out and explained by action gesture etc.

I think the most important feedback we received was concerning our storyboards, we submitted our storyboards in and most of our scenes did not have cutaway shots, this didn’t allow our scenes to flow properly, we then added cutaways as it proves to be very significant in film making. They were important as they showed what was going on in places we were going to show fully next of if two things are going on simultaneously. This made our production a whole lot better. When making a film without the use of cutaway shots it can only aspire to a certain level, cutaway shots make the film better. After receiving the feedback about cutaways I believe our film became much better as it flowed through better and seemed to make more sense, if we did not receive this information our film would not have been that good.

We received feedback for our editing many times we was told that our film was too prolonged so we went back and changed it (making it shorter). We were told to add a few more cutaways so we did this, slow down some shots, cut down on some effects.

The first music we used in our film was said to be to spooky and serious as we were trying to go for a specific sound, we then looked for more music and the final music we used was liked by our audience and was said to complement the film very well. The sound effects used were good like the school bell was put in nicely with the fade to show time has passed.

We received feedback for our film review at first we went for the single review with no other reviews on the page, after showing the group we then made two different film reviews which both had various different films being reviewed with our film the main film on both reviews, this helped us as the level from the 1^st draft to the final is very good, the colours, layout, typography all make it a better production.

We initially started with only having 1 film poster then we decided to make a poster campaign (3 film posters) that all tell the same story in its own way, this made our film posters better and allowed us to have more than one film poster.

When our film was finished we received feedback for that. Are titles were said to be good we was told that we could have had a better actor, our film is good and portrayed comedy, we was told that our film could have finished in a better way and that we had some continuity problems all the feedback given could be seen as pointless as the film is done however it is still useful as if we were to make another film we would have more knowledge and would be able to cut out some mistakes which we made this time.

1st Draft


What have you learned from your audience feedback?

Receiving audience feedback is one of the most important factors in all 3 parts of production. As we know when making something sometimes you can get carried away and need outer feedback to allow you to know what is good about what your doing and what is bad about what you’re doing, we must remember that we are making films for an audience and we ourselves are not the target audience. Throughout our pitches, treatments and first ideas of our film we was constantly getting new feedback which allowed us to go back and change certain things at our first presentation our film ideas had no major sense of Logical causality, thematic unity, plot twists, motivation for characters and any real development. 1 major thing we was told was that we should stop out f the box the gain ideas that were not common and find ideas from various sources for example looking at simple stories which can be expanded, newspapers, websites which have short story ideas which can be modernised in some cases or altered to produce a good production.

We was told that our film had a good idea and that we only needed to change a few things and delve deeper into the development of certain characters, that’s what made us make very in-depth character profiles adding things which we may have not put if we had not received feedback (things like religion, lifetime background, information about parents etc) we went to another level with our profiles to make the characters as real as possible.

At first we had loads of dialogue and we were told to let the actions do more talking and only use dialogue when necessary. We then cut down a large amount of dialogue and tried to enforce actions instead of dialogue.

I think the most important feedback we received was concerning our storyboards, we submitted our storyboards in and most of our scenes did not have cutaway shots, this didn’t allow our scenes to flow properly, we then added cutaways as it proves to be very significant in film making. They were important as they showed what was going on in places we were going to show fully next of if two things are going on simultaneously.